From princeconcord at sbcglobal.net Fri Feb 3 13:12:08 2012 From: princeconcord at sbcglobal.net (Steven Cook) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2012 13:12:08 -0500 Subject: TALUG: Asterisk choppy audio issues Message-ID: <4F2C2378.7010300@sbcglobal.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Greetings once again, fellow LUGites. Recently, I've installed Asterisk on a VPS that I run, and I'm having some issues with choppy audio. I know the server can handle a simple SIP connection, no problem, but while listening to audio, I've noticed it's a bit choppy and in some cases, even cuts out for a second or so. Other people on the receiving end of a call (to the PSTN) have told me my audio cuts out or distorts sometimes also. Is there anything I can do to increase the performance of Asterisk? Any settings I should look at? I did notice there's a realtime priority option, but I can't enable it because the VPS is an OpenVZ VM and I'm guessing some setting needs to be enabled on the host to work. Aside from this, what should I be looking for in the configs? I've attempted to play with the jitter buffer in sip.conf, but it doesn't seem to help much at all. Assistance from an Asterisk guru would be much appreciated. :) Stay frosty. - -- Steven Cook PGP Key ID: 0xD4B4A2D7 Key Fingerprint: FBAA 26BB 7D08 3C5F C7C6 F108 06F4 FF6A D4B4 A2D7 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPLCNzAAoJEAb0/2rUtKLXvZ8H/jFHD3U+JTNqVeTG+W6YEDpK g2WJe0m6lnbdZr4XGzOfiWon5QNPUKMH+XeV4N/QH+DlvsY96ge9F/0YeVqmhnwz B5derNyMBKMDBHFsluosNuBl/01W/8nuH0T0bgnp2a/S1CbvgimG9GvT+KFjv2ks AHl5Kv5JprPE1p5ASGvNQuyB+g3VXsvb7HkgEFao0FZE+XvNPLfQ6c1kYvVz9EoW lPXF2Txi/jvyVhyLzbSQXUBoxU3GfqmGD2qU1TVhdPc8K3DYzC1FbNjP2QRa0N0c 0OR5vBbW/zy72Nah77lf0KV75Y2lumMN+xMSR6+MMDhmL5hm5sTroXCtiu/XTpA= =bOdO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jshriver at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 13:36:34 2012 From: jshriver at gmail.com (Joshua Shriver) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 13:36:34 -0500 Subject: TALUG: Asterisk choppy audio issues In-Reply-To: <4F2C2378.7010300@sbcglobal.net> References: <4F2C2378.7010300@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Wish I had answers as I too use Asterisk extensively and have experienced this and many more problems. Will follow the thread hopefully something will come up. You could try changing the codecs to something less bandwidth intensive if you're noticing spikes that the connection can't handle (think pushing 10-15 calls over a DSL line). However that may introduce distortion in the audio so it's a tradeoff. -Josh From sean at seanharlow.info Fri Feb 3 13:39:58 2012 From: sean at seanharlow.info (Sean Harlow) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 13:39:58 -0500 Subject: TALUG: Asterisk choppy audio issues In-Reply-To: <4F2C2378.7010300@sbcglobal.net> References: <4F2C2378.7010300@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <101B4DE0-A1A1-4C15-B0EE-23508323B9F2@seanharlow.info> VoIP is very timing dependent, so anything in the audio stream (which is most Asterisk configurations) needs to be getting enough time on the system in a predictable way. If it's a lower-end VPS, it's possible that your instance is being preempted by other users too often to provide reasonable voice performance. Increasing the jitter buffer on the Asterisk end compensates for jitter on the incoming streams, not what would be caused by an oversubscribed virtual host. Increasing the buffer on the SIP clients may help for those, but it wouldn't affect the PSTN side of things and would eventually introduce notable lag which would make things sound like an old satellite-based international trunk. I can say I didn't have to do anything special to get my home Asterisk system to run happily in ESXi, but my host box is not heavily loaded (the other two 24/7 VMs are a pfSense router and a minimal syslog server). ---------- Sean Harlow sean at seanharlow.info On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:12 PM, Steven Cook wrote: > <-------- TALUG Info: http://www.talug.org --------> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Greetings once again, fellow LUGites. > > Recently, I've installed Asterisk on a VPS that I run, and I'm having > some issues with choppy audio. I know the server can handle a simple SIP > connection, no problem, but while listening to audio, I've noticed it's > a bit choppy and in some cases, even cuts out for a second or so. Other > people on the receiving end of a call (to the PSTN) have told me my > audio cuts out or distorts sometimes also. > > Is there anything I can do to increase the performance of Asterisk? Any > settings I should look at? I did notice there's a realtime priority > option, but I can't enable it because the VPS is an OpenVZ VM and I'm > guessing some setting needs to be enabled on the host to work. Aside > from this, what should I be looking for in the configs? I've attempted > to play with the jitter buffer in sip.conf, but it doesn't seem to help > much at all. > > Assistance from an Asterisk guru would be much appreciated. :) > > Stay frosty. > > - -- > Steven Cook > PGP Key ID: 0xD4B4A2D7 > Key Fingerprint: FBAA 26BB 7D08 3C5F C7C6 F108 06F4 FF6A D4B4 A2D7 > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPLCNzAAoJEAb0/2rUtKLXvZ8H/jFHD3U+JTNqVeTG+W6YEDpK > g2WJe0m6lnbdZr4XGzOfiWon5QNPUKMH+XeV4N/QH+DlvsY96ge9F/0YeVqmhnwz > B5derNyMBKMDBHFsluosNuBl/01W/8nuH0T0bgnp2a/S1CbvgimG9GvT+KFjv2ks > AHl5Kv5JprPE1p5ASGvNQuyB+g3VXsvb7HkgEFao0FZE+XvNPLfQ6c1kYvVz9EoW > lPXF2Txi/jvyVhyLzbSQXUBoxU3GfqmGD2qU1TVhdPc8K3DYzC1FbNjP2QRa0N0c > 0OR5vBbW/zy72Nah77lf0KV75Y2lumMN+xMSR6+MMDhmL5hm5sTroXCtiu/XTpA= > =bOdO > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > talug mailing list > talug at talug.org > http://webhost3.uniqsys.com/mailman/listinfo/talug From gchamber at bright.net Sat Feb 18 18:21:38 2012 From: gchamber at bright.net (Glenn Chambers) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 18:21:38 -0500 Subject: TALUG: For Loren: Adventure links Message-ID: <1329607298.30555.0.camel@toucan2> As discussed at the meeting: http://www.rickadams.org/adventure/ From mark at aufdencamp.com Mon Feb 20 11:29:10 2012 From: mark at aufdencamp.com (Mark Aufdencamp) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:29:10 -0700 Subject: TALUG: For Loren: Adventure links Message-ID: <20120220092910.9ba243b9bd5043f4419b20bd9e37a2c9.f7d9e6b294.wbe@email17.secureserver.net> Nice score! Implemented ActiveRecord Session Storage last night/this morning! > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: TALUG: For Loren: Adventure links > From: Glenn Chambers > Date: Sat, February 18, 2012 6:21 pm > To: talug at talug.org > > > <-------- TALUG Info: http://www.talug.org --------> > As discussed at the meeting: > > http://www.rickadams.org/adventure/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > talug mailing list > talug at talug.org > http://webhost3.uniqsys.com/mailman/listinfo/talug From princeconcord at sbcglobal.net Mon Feb 27 17:55:29 2012 From: princeconcord at sbcglobal.net (Steven Cook) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 17:55:29 -0500 Subject: TALUG: Raspberry Pi Message-ID: <4F4C09E1.6030609@sbcglobal.net> For those that haven't been following the Raspberry Pi project, they are making a big announcement on Wednesday at 6am GMT. I'm guessing this will be about the boards going on sale, or at least we hope. :) Although most of us will still be sleeping then, if anyone manages to snag a few of these boards and I don't, please let me know. I'd be more than happy to buy one off of you. :) -- Steven Cook PGP Key ID: 0xD4B4A2D7 Key Fingerprint: FBAA 26BB 7D08 3C5F C7C6 F108 06F4 FF6A D4B4 A2D7 From johnsgruber at gmail.com Mon Feb 27 18:15:43 2012 From: johnsgruber at gmail.com (John S Gruber) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 18:15:43 -0500 Subject: TALUG: Raspberry Pi In-Reply-To: <4F4C09E1.6030609@sbcglobal.net> References: <4F4C09E1.6030609@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: I think they are selling just one per person for the first batch. On Feb 27, 2012 6:12 PM, "Steven Cook" wrote: > > <-------- TALUG Info: http://www.talug.org --------> > For those that haven't been following the Raspberry Pi project, they are > making a big announcement on Wednesday at 6am GMT. I'm guessing this > will be about the boards going on sale, or at least we hope. :) > > Although most of us will still be sleeping then, if anyone manages to > snag a few of these boards and I don't, please let me know. I'd be more > than happy to buy one off of you. :) > > -- > Steven Cook > PGP Key ID: 0xD4B4A2D7 > Key Fingerprint: FBAA 26BB 7D08 3C5F C7C6 F108 06F4 FF6A D4B4 A2D7 > _______________________________________________ > talug mailing list > talug at talug.org > http://webhost3.uniqsys.com/mailman/listinfo/talug From jshriver at gmail.com Mon Feb 27 18:22:59 2012 From: jshriver at gmail.com (Joshua Shriver) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 18:22:59 -0500 Subject: TALUG: Raspberry Pi In-Reply-To: <4F4C09E1.6030609@sbcglobal.net> References: <4F4C09E1.6030609@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: I truly hope so. Been following them since last October and been anxious to get one since they were supposed to go on sell at the end of Dec, then Jan, then Feb :) You can also join their mailing list (which hasn't had a single post in 3-4 months. But I believe it's basically a way of getting the official sell info once it pops. Wish they had more A's for sell than B's. Not that $10 is gonna break the bank but if you don't need the extra memory for your project it's 28% price increase just for the ram. Planning to use one in my HAB project in place of the MSP-EXP430G2 I was tinkering with. So much power and possibilities in this little beast. Thanks for the heads up. -Josh Also a bit surprised they ditched Ubuntu and Debian for the final product now going with Fedora. On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Steven Cook wrote: > <-------- TALUG Info: http://www.talug.org --------> > For those that haven't been following the Raspberry Pi project, they are > making a big announcement on Wednesday at 6am GMT. I'm guessing this > will be about the boards going on sale, or at least we hope. :) > > Although most of us will still be sleeping then, if anyone manages to > snag a few of these boards and I don't, please let me know. I'd be more > than happy to buy one off of you. :) > > -- > Steven Cook > PGP Key ID: 0xD4B4A2D7 > Key Fingerprint: FBAA 26BB 7D08 3C5F C7C6 F108 06F4 FF6A D4B4 A2D7 > _______________________________________________ > talug mailing list > talug at talug.org > http://webhost3.uniqsys.com/mailman/listinfo/talug From princeconcord at sbcglobal.net Mon Feb 27 18:50:51 2012 From: princeconcord at sbcglobal.net (Steven Cook) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 18:50:51 -0500 Subject: TALUG: Raspberry Pi In-Reply-To: References: <4F4C09E1.6030609@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4F4C16DB.90107@sbcglobal.net> John, Ah, true. Forgot about that. Well, here's hoping I get one then. :) On 02/27/2012 06:15 PM, John S Gruber wrote: > <-------- TALUG Info: http://www.talug.org --------> > I think they are selling just one per person for the first batch. > On Feb 27, 2012 6:12 PM, "Steven Cook" wrote: >> >> <-------- TALUG Info: http://www.talug.org --------> >> For those that haven't been following the Raspberry Pi project, they are >> making a big announcement on Wednesday at 6am GMT. I'm guessing this >> will be about the boards going on sale, or at least we hope. :) >> >> Although most of us will still be sleeping then, if anyone manages to >> snag a few of these boards and I don't, please let me know. I'd be more >> than happy to buy one off of you. :) -- Steven Cook PGP Key ID: 0xD4B4A2D7 Key Fingerprint: FBAA 26BB 7D08 3C5F C7C6 F108 06F4 FF6A D4B4 A2D7 From jshriver at gmail.com Mon Feb 27 21:11:31 2012 From: jshriver at gmail.com (Joshua Shriver) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 21:11:31 -0500 Subject: TALUG: Raspberry Pi In-Reply-To: <4F4C16DB.90107@sbcglobal.net> References: <4F4C09E1.6030609@sbcglobal.net> <4F4C16DB.90107@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: I'd rather they limit sells than impose a buy-1-donate-1 they were pondering. While altruistic, some people who want to get one and willing to donate code back into the community could be limited if they had to 2x their cost. -Josh From dpettee at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 11:48:27 2012 From: dpettee at gmail.com (Denny Pettee) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 11:48:27 -0500 Subject: TALUG: Raspberry Pi In-Reply-To: References: <4F4C09E1.6030609@sbcglobal.net> <4F4C16DB.90107@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: If I am not mistaken the OS loaded SD card is not included and will be sold separately? Can anyone confirm this? -Denny From jshriver at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 17:59:09 2012 From: jshriver at gmail.com (Joshua Shriver) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:59:09 -0500 Subject: TALUG: Hackerspaces and Toledo Soup Message-ID: There's been a couple threads about starting a dedicated space for local projects but nothing has transpired. Came across this recently and thought it might be a nice source of funds for a Toledo Hackerspace. http://toledosoup.com/ It's past the time for this quarters proposals but perhaps the next run we could apply. -Josh From bluesfreak72 at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 18:48:26 2012 From: bluesfreak72 at gmail.com (Scott Vargovich) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 18:48:26 -0500 Subject: TALUG: Hackerspaces and Toledo Soup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There was a hackerspace that was going for a while. I was on their mailing list, but I haven't heard anything from them in quite a while. I think they were having trouble finding suitable space on a budget. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Joshua Shriver wrote: > <-------- TALUG Info: http://www.talug.org --------> > There's been a couple threads about starting a dedicated space for > local projects but nothing has transpired. Came across this recently > and thought it might be a nice source of funds for a Toledo > Hackerspace. > > http://toledosoup.com/ > > It's past the time for this quarters proposals but perhaps the next > run we could apply. > > -Josh > _______________________________________________ > talug mailing list > talug at talug.org > http://webhost3.uniqsys.com/mailman/listinfo/talug > -- <>< Scott Vargovich <>< ------------------------------------------ OpenPGP Key ID: F8F5DC7E ------------------------------------------ From jshriver at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 18:59:53 2012 From: jshriver at gmail.com (Joshua Shriver) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 18:59:53 -0500 Subject: TALUG: Hackerspaces and Toledo Soup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Did they have a website or mind sending me their mailing list info? -Josh On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Scott Vargovich wrote: > <-------- TALUG Info: http://www.talug.org --------> > There was a hackerspace that was going for a while. ?I was on their mailing > list, but I haven't heard anything from them in quite a while. ?I think > they were having trouble finding suitable space on a budget. > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Joshua Shriver wrote: > >> <-------- TALUG Info: http://www.talug.org --------> >> There's been a couple threads about starting a dedicated space for >> local projects but nothing has transpired. Came across this recently >> and thought it might be a nice source of funds for a Toledo >> Hackerspace. >> >> http://toledosoup.com/ >> >> It's past the time for this quarters proposals but perhaps the next >> run we could apply. >> >> -Josh >> _______________________________________________ >> talug mailing list >> talug at talug.org >> http://webhost3.uniqsys.com/mailman/listinfo/talug >> > > > > -- > <>< ?Scott Vargovich ?<>< > ------------------------------------------ > OpenPGP Key ID: F8F5DC7E > ------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > talug mailing list > talug at talug.org > http://webhost3.uniqsys.com/mailman/listinfo/talug From bluesfreak72 at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 19:11:28 2012 From: bluesfreak72 at gmail.com (Scott Vargovich) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 19:11:28 -0500 Subject: TALUG: Hackerspaces and Toledo Soup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Here's their website: http://glassactlabs.org/ The guy heading it up is on our list, Leif Burrow. I believe the mailing list was: list at glassactlabs.org. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Joshua Shriver wrote: > <-------- TALUG Info: http://www.talug.org --------> > Did they have a website or mind sending me their mailing list info? > > -Josh > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Scott Vargovich > wrote: > > <-------- TALUG Info: http://www.talug.org --------> > > There was a hackerspace that was going for a while. I was on their > mailing > > list, but I haven't heard anything from them in quite a while. I think > > they were having trouble finding suitable space on a budget. > > > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Joshua Shriver > wrote: > > > >> <-------- TALUG Info: http://www.talug.org --------> > >> There's been a couple threads about starting a dedicated space for > >> local projects but nothing has transpired. Came across this recently > >> and thought it might be a nice source of funds for a Toledo > >> Hackerspace. > >> > >> http://toledosoup.com/ > >> > >> It's past the time for this quarters proposals but perhaps the next > >> run we could apply. > >> > >> -Josh > >> _______________________________________________ > >> talug mailing list > >> talug at talug.org > >> http://webhost3.uniqsys.com/mailman/listinfo/talug > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > <>< Scott Vargovich <>< > > ------------------------------------------ > > OpenPGP Key ID: F8F5DC7E > > ------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > > talug mailing list > > talug at talug.org > > http://webhost3.uniqsys.com/mailman/listinfo/talug > > _______________________________________________ > talug mailing list > talug at talug.org > http://webhost3.uniqsys.com/mailman/listinfo/talug > -- <>< Scott Vargovich <>< ------------------------------------------ OpenPGP Key ID: F8F5DC7E ------------------------------------------ From stu at w8an.org Tue Feb 28 21:09:30 2012 From: stu at w8an.org (Steve) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 18:09:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: TALUG: Hackerspaces and Toledo Soup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1330481370.23500.YahooMailNeo@web126101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> This would be great. There is a similar type group in Ann Arbor that has a large following. Unfortunately it is a good hour drive each way and fairly costly in gas.? http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/notbago/ I'd love to see this happen in the Toledo area. Steve.? ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Vargovich To: talug at talug.org Cc: Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:11 PM Subject: Re: TALUG: Hackerspaces and Toledo Soup <-------- TALUG Info: http://www.talug.org --------> Here's their website:? http://glassactlabs.org/? The guy heading it up is on our list, Leif Burrow.? I believe the mailing list was: list at glassactlabs.org. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Joshua Shriver wrote: > <-------- TALUG Info: http://www.talug.org --------> > Did they have a website or mind sending me their mailing list info? > > -Josh > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Scott Vargovich > wrote: > > <-------- TALUG Info: http://www.talug.org --------> > > There was a hackerspace that was going for a while.? I was on their > mailing > > list, but I haven't heard anything from them in quite a while.? I think > > they were having trouble finding suitable space on a budget. > > > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Joshua Shriver > wrote: > > > >> <-------- TALUG Info: http://www.talug.org --------> > >> There's been a couple threads about starting a dedicated space for > >> local projects but nothing has transpired. Came across this recently > >> and thought it might be a nice source of funds for a Toledo > >> Hackerspace. > >> > >> http://toledosoup.com/ > >> > >> It's past the time for this quarters proposals but perhaps the next > >> run we could apply. > >> > >> -Josh > >> _______________________________________________ > >> talug mailing list > >> talug at talug.org > >> http://webhost3.uniqsys.com/mailman/listinfo/talug > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > <>< > > ------------------------------------------ > > OpenPGP Key ID: F8F5DC7E > > ------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > > talug mailing list > > talug at talug.org > > http://webhost3.uniqsys.com/mailman/listinfo/talug > > _______________________________________________ > talug mailing list > talug at talug.org > http://webhost3.uniqsys.com/mailman/listinfo/talug > -- <>< ------------------------------------------ OpenPGP Key ID: F8F5DC7E ------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ talug mailing list talug at talug.org http://webhost3.uniqsys.com/mailman/listinfo/talug From johnsgruber at gmail.com Wed Feb 29 03:50:52 2012 From: johnsgruber at gmail.com (John S Gruber) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 03:50:52 -0500 Subject: TALUG: Raspberry Pi In-Reply-To: References: <4F4C09E1.6030609@sbcglobal.net> <4F4C16DB.90107@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Well I just ordered one from Farnell in the UK. I don't think it will be one from the first batch, however. It's costing $US 43 or so, plus, maybe, shipping. It took me more than two hours to place the order. The Raspberry Pi project changed the rules and designated two UK firms to take orders for the cards they had ordered from the Far East. They were supposed to be ready for the huge load of orders as of 1AM this morning. Both web sites were effectively down. The one distributor told callers they only sold to companines. Later they told someone they would start to sell later in the week. Their web site pointed me to Allied Electronics as the appropriate place to buy something in the US, but Allied Electronics site has nothing for the Raspberry Pi. Farnell was said to have sold out within a few minutes, but I wasn't able to even reach their export site until almost two hours after sales were supposed to have started. When I finally did get registered, get the quantity right, enter the credit card number, etc., and hit confirm, the server didn't respond. So did they not enter the order, or did the confirmation not get back to me? They got to the atomic action and blew it. Anyway I signed in again and it said I had placed no orders so I reconfirmed it in the original tab and it finally got through. Farnell has some mention of Newark on some of their pages, BTW, but Newark doesn't mention the Raspberry Pi on their website, either. The maddening thing is that this will be picked up in the press as an indication of how popular the devices are. While they are, it better demonstrates how cocky companies can be about the ability of their IT infrastructure to handle previously unseen loads. The project team says they warned them and were reassured they could handle it. My order says new stock is expected in 30 days. Those of you interested might first want to check the Allied Electronics and Newarks Electronics websites in a couple of days to see if the Raspberry Pi's show up there. You might be able to order from the same batch I'm included in without all the hassle and knowing what the shipping will cost you. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Denny Pettee wrote: > <-------- TALUG Info: http://www.talug.org --------> > If I am not mistaken the OS loaded SD card is not included and will be sold > separately? ?Can anyone confirm this? > I'm not sure. I was planning on downloading an image and writing to an SD card myself anyway, probably from the Debian distro. Their FAQ's weren't accurate about initial sales, but maybe they will be accurate about what's included. Farnell's website doesn't include an SD card in the description, only the SD card slot. The Raspberry Pi FAQ and the rest of the site is down for the moment to protect the availability of the announcement on their web site. At least the project site took the load into their planning. Going to bed. From gchamber at bright.net Wed Feb 29 21:56:30 2012 From: gchamber at bright.net (Glenn Chambers) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 21:56:30 -0500 Subject: TALUG: Raspberry Pi In-Reply-To: References: <4F4C09E1.6030609@sbcglobal.net> <4F4C16DB.90107@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1330570590.3398.1.camel@toucan2> On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 11:48 -0500, Denny Pettee wrote: > <-------- TALUG Info: http://www.talug.org --------> > If I am not mistaken the OS loaded SD card is not included and will be sold > separately? Can anyone confirm this? I think you provide the SD card and can download the software yourself. At least one of the vendors has enough of a functioning website to indicate that they have a 'bundle' available that includes a preloaded SD card, but I don't think that's mandatory. From nevrgonastopme00 at gmail.com Wed Feb 29 22:19:26 2012 From: nevrgonastopme00 at gmail.com (Kris Bahnsen) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:19:26 -0700 Subject: TALUG: Raspberry Pi In-Reply-To: <1330570590.3398.1.camel@toucan2> References: <4F4C09E1.6030609@sbcglobal.net> <4F4C16DB.90107@sbcglobal.net> <1330570590.3398.1.camel@toucan2> Message-ID: If anything, I hope would that Raspberry Pi does something as simple as a dd'able SD card image. We do this a lot at the company I work for, it makes it a LOT easier to distribute images. I got one as well, took me two and a half hours, but it looks like it went through. I am quite curious to see how this whole project goes. I am rather weary of open-sourced projects, even if they are not for profit. Only time will tell I guess. In the mean time I think I have a cheap replacement for my media frontend :D -Kris On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 7:56 PM, Glenn Chambers wrote: > <-------- TALUG Info: http://www.talug.org --------> > On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 11:48 -0500, Denny Pettee wrote: >> <-------- TALUG Info: http://www.talug.org --------> >> If I am not mistaken the OS loaded SD card is not included and will be sold >> separately? ?Can anyone confirm this? > > I think you provide the SD card and can download the software yourself. > At least one of the vendors has enough of a functioning website to > indicate that they have a 'bundle' available that includes a preloaded > SD card, but I don't think that's mandatory. > > > _______________________________________________ > talug mailing list > talug at talug.org > http://webhost3.uniqsys.com/mailman/listinfo/talug From jshriver at gmail.com Wed Feb 29 23:08:44 2012 From: jshriver at gmail.com (Joshua Shriver) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 23:08:44 -0500 Subject: TALUG: Raspberry Pi In-Reply-To: References: <4F4C09E1.6030609@sbcglobal.net> <4F4C16DB.90107@sbcglobal.net> <1330570590.3398.1.camel@toucan2> Message-ID: You should be able to just grab the image online there appears to be a debian, fedora, even a XBMC dedicated image you can just dd if=image.img of=/dev/sdx This can be useful for large deployments as well since you can tailor a setup to your needs and just mass dd the sd cards, pop in and be ready to go. If I can get the money together planning to create a test cluster of 4-8 units like this. >From a learning experience, the big thing I've learned so far about ARM is that it doesn't have a traditional BIOS that knows to boot the first 512bytes from the first disk and what not like the x86 arch. For Raspberry Pi they had to use some kind of hack in the video driver and slipped boot card into it to act as a quasi boot loader. Take this with a grain of salt though as I don't know the exact details but did make me rethink how imaging will work. Plus the possibility of de-bricking it if something should go awry outside the disk system. These could also be used for creating easy setup labs for web-based thin clients. I'm excited at the prospects :) The breakout board also looks fun and hope it gets released as well (as in actually produced, not just the open hardware schematics that are floating). That'll allow easier tinkering with i2c components without the need of touching the mainboard itself. -Josh On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Kris Bahnsen wrote: > <-------- TALUG Info: http://www.talug.org --------> > If anything, I hope would that Raspberry Pi does something as simple > as a dd'able SD card image. ?We do this a lot at the company I work > for, it makes it a LOT easier to distribute images. ?I got one as > well, took me two and a half hours, but it looks like it went through. > ?I am quite curious to see how this whole project goes. ?I am rather > weary of open-sourced projects, even if they are not for profit. ?Only > time will tell I guess. ?In the mean time I think I have a cheap > replacement for my media frontend :D > > -Kris > > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 7:56 PM, Glenn Chambers wrote: >> <-------- TALUG Info: http://www.talug.org --------> >> On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 11:48 -0500, Denny Pettee wrote: >>> <-------- TALUG Info: http://www.talug.org --------> >>> If I am not mistaken the OS loaded SD card is not included and will be sold >>> separately? ?Can anyone confirm this? >> >> I think you provide the SD card and can download the software yourself. >> At least one of the vendors has enough of a functioning website to >> indicate that they have a 'bundle' available that includes a preloaded >> SD card, but I don't think that's mandatory. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> talug mailing list >> talug at talug.org >> http://webhost3.uniqsys.com/mailman/listinfo/talug > > _______________________________________________ > talug mailing list > talug at talug.org > http://webhost3.uniqsys.com/mailman/listinfo/talug